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How did you become a writer?
All through elementary school, writing in one way or another was the first thing we did
every morning. "Writing" began in kindergarten, when we had to tell a story to
our teacher every day. She would write down the words and we would illustrate our stories
- our very short stories. In every grade after, the first thing we had to do every day,
was sit down and write. So writing is what I've always done. I was editor of my high
school newspaper and editor of my college yearbook. After teaching for a couple of years
and running a program at Bank Street College of Education's Head Start and Early Childhood
Center, I created a film on the lives of children who lived and attended our Center which
was in the West 42nd Street area of New York City.
After that, CBS came to Bank Street and asked if we would create a 5 minute, 5 day-a-week
opening for the Captain Kangaroo Show. I did that for one year and learned so much from my
co-writers and might I add, much more experienced writers, Irma Simonton Black and Bill
Hooks. Even back then, in the mid-60's there was censorship. The CBS censors would not
allow the word "toilet" to be said on air. We told them that the word was in our
script solely to explain the different rooms in an apartment and what made them different
- and that our script did not even mention what goes in a toilet! But the censors deleted
"toilet" from our script. This is one case we lost.
Why did you decide to write a sex education book?
In the late 80's, an editor asked if I was interested in writing a book on HIV/AIDS for
elementary school age children, something that I had never thought about writing. I
answered the editor by saying that if I were going to talk with my children about
HIV/AIDS, I would start out by telling them all the things they needed to do to stay
healthy, and all the information they would need to make healthy decisions. I told him
that kids already had a lot of information from the media and their peers, but what
worried me the most was that kids had a lot of misinformation. I also said that while kids
and teens would need to know about the HIV virus and other sexually transmitted diseases,
(how NOT to get infected, and how one gets infected), they would also need to know a lot
of other things about their bodies in order to stay healthy. And that's why it would be
necessary to include the many aspects of sexual health - what is sex, how one's body
changes during puberty, how pregnancy begins and how to prevent pregnancy, why it matters
to wait to have a baby when one is old enough and responsible enough to take care of a
baby, how to keep one's body safe - and so much more in our book.
How old are the kids reading your books?
I felt that if possible, it would be in our kids' and teen's best interest to educate them
about sexual health before they entered puberty, and of course, continue all through
puberty and adolescence. That's why when writing IT'S PERFECTLY NORMAL Changing Bodies,
Growing Up, Sex, and Sexual Health, I wrote the book for kids ages 10 and up. Michael
Emberley, the amazingly talented and caring illustrator of our books on sexual health, and
I took felt we had to be responsible and take the greatest care in creating these books by
having them vetted by experts to make sure that what we created was as scientifically and
psychologically accurate, as age-appropriate, and as up-to date as possible. (It took us 5
years to complete this book.) Each time there is a reprint, we make sure the information
is updated. And this summer, there will be an up-dated 10th anniversary edition of IT'S
PERFECTLY NORMAL, which has now been published around the world from Italy to the
Netherlands to Japan, Taiwan, Mongolia, Poland and many other countries. A 5th anniversary
edition of IT'S SO AMAZING! A Book About Eggs, Sperm, Birth, Babies, and Families will
also be published this summer. This book for children ages 7 and up was created in
response to the overwhelming requests for a book younger children. And we are in the midst
of creating a book on babies and where they come from called IT'S NOT THE STORK! for an
even younger group, ages 4 and up, who also have lots of questions and want to know the
fascinating story of how we all begin and where we came from.
Were you surprised the first time your books were challenged?
No. I had been told by almost everyone I interviewed during the research phase of the book
that there would be public library and school library challenges. And I knew that while
most in this country want comprehensive sexuality education for their kids and teens,
there are those who do not want their children to have this information from anyone other
than one's parents. I believe whenever possible, the parent should be his or her child's
first sexuality educator. But I know - from my own experience as a parent, and from
teachers, librarians, and heath professionals - that books and the professionals who deal
with kids day-in-day-out, can and do also help educate our kids about sexual health.
If any parent chooses not have their child taught about sexual health or read my books on
sexual health for any reason - be it religious, cultural or whatever - that is their
right. But if a parent wants their child to be educated about sexual health, and wants
them to have the choice to read my book or any other book on a library shelf, that is also
a parent's right. And I believe that in a democracy, no parent has the right to keep this
information from other children or teens whose parent or parents choose to have their
schools or libraries provide responsible information - whether it's in the form of a book
or a curriculum. I would never ever say that every family, library, or school in America
should have my books. But any family, library, or school that chooses to have my books,
should have the right to have them.
How did it make you feel?
At first, I felt as if I had been attacked. And then I took a deep breath and realized
that the book Michael Emberley and I created for children and teens was what I believed
children and teens needed to have - honest information to help to keep them healthy, to
help them make good and responsible decisions about their bodies and they grow from being
a child to a teenager. Then I felt fine.
But each time a librarian is challenged for making the decision to have my books in his or
her library collection, decisions that librarians exercise with enormous care, I am upset
that that the librarian's professional integrity and informed professional decision is
being challenged. Our librarians are heroes who defend our democracy when they go before
their library boards to defend their decisions to have and keep my books or any other
challenged books in their library collections. They are the heroes who are on the front
lines of our communities protecting our 1st amendment rights.
Did you fight back?
We fight back by supporting the librarian who is being challenged. And this is how that is
done: Whenever my publisher or I hear about a library challenge to any of my books, my
publisher calls the librarian directly to offer support and ask how we can be helpful. At
that point, a packet of materials are sent out to the librarian. This packet contains
reviews, as well as a letter from my editor saying why she choose to publish my books on
sexual health and why she believes it is important for children and teens to have accurate
information.
My publisher also contacts the PEN AMERICAN Children's Book Committee chairs who send a
letter to the librarian offering support and stating why in a democracy children and teens
have the right and the need to have free access to information they may seek or come
across by happenstance in their school or public library. These two actions are taken to
support librarians and help them make the case that in making their professional judgment
about my books, they are not alone in that judgment. It is our hope that by sending these
materials, their library boards will understand that these books are responsible, well
reviewed, and award-winning, and that the librarian's judgment is overwhelmingly supported
by other professionals - book reviewers, educators, librarians, health professionals, and
clergy members as well.
Did anyone help you? Have kids played a role?
As mentioned above, my publisher always supports my work, along with family, friends and
colleagues who offer advice about how to deal with protecting 1st amendment rights and
making sure the our kids and teens have access to the information they need. Middle school
kids and teens have played a role by showing up at library hearings - when the library
board considers the challenge to remove my books from their library or from open shelving.
Kids and teens speak eloquently, clearly, and persuasively why my books, and other books
about sexual health, need to be on open shelving in their library, or need to stay in the
library, and why it matters to them to have the information that presented in my books.
What can a kid do to help fight censorship?
Lots of things can help, including what I mentioned above - speaking at the library board
meeting when the challenge is being considered by the board. Also, you can write a letter
to the library board, and ask ten of your friends to also write a letter, and ask each of
them to ask ten more friends. Soon, the board may receive 50 letters, and that's a lot of
letters and could be very persuasive. You might want to write up a sample letter for your
friend to use.
You could also ask your parent to write a letter and ask them to ask ten friends to write
letters. By now, the board may have received 100 letters and that could be very
persuasive. You could also write a letter to the editor in your school or local newspaper.
When you write a sample letter, a letter, or a letter to the editor, make sure you have
the correct facts, and have a friend or an adult, your librarian, or teacher, or parent
check your letter to make sure you have the correct facts.
What advice do you have for someone who wants to be a writer?
Sit down and write every day. Then read out loud what you wrote. You will hear what works,
and what doesn't work. Go back and revise. Get friends, a teacher, a parent to read what
you write and critique it. Tell them to be 100% honest, to be tough. Look in the libraries
or bookstores for the type of book you'd like to write. Form a writer's group, and get
those in the group to critique. Or do none of the above and just write. Write, write,
write. Just keep at it, and your writing will become better and better and one day, and a
lot of this has to do with luck and timing, what you wrote might just be published.
Robie Resources
Robie's Books
| Its Perfectly Normal: Changing Bodies, Growing Up, Sex, and
Sexual Health. Illustrated by Michael Emberley. Candlewick Press, 1994. |

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Goodbye Mousie. Illustrated by Jan Ormerod. McElderry, 2001. |
| Its So Amazing! A Book About Eggs, Sperm, Birth, Babies, and
Families. Illustrated by Michael Emberley. Candlewick Press, 1999. |

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Happy Birth Day! Illustrated by Michael Emberley. Candlewick
Press, 1996.
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| Hello Benny! Illustrated by Michael Emberly. McElderry, 2002. |

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Hi New Baby! Illustrated by Michael
Emberly. Candlewick, 2000. |
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